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Rob Anybody: /* Polymost renderer */

2020-07-22T02:19:15Z

Polymost renderer

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	===Polymost renderer===		===Polymost renderer===
	The polymost renderer is bad, M'kay? It's like a comic relief in bad Hollywood films who can't do anything right. Don't use it. It has also been observed that some TROR constructions work perfectly on some computers, however are incredibly glitchy on others, so if you do decide to use this renderer, and TROR works for you, make sure you have two or three other people check it on their setups before you release your map. There are no plans to add complete polymost TROR compatibility as polymost will be obsolete once polymer is finished and optimised.		[needs description]


	==Random Trivia==		==Random Trivia==

Rob Anybody: /* Polymer renderer */ not renderer of choice

2020-07-22T02:18:51Z

Polymer renderer: not renderer of choice

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	===Polymer renderer===		===Polymer renderer===

			'''Polymer is not actively developed at this time and should only be used as a last resort.'''

	Masked floors and ceilings in polymer are always the last thing drawn on the screen. That means if you have a transparent surface such as a masked wall or sprite, it would cause everything all the TROR masked surfaces behind the transparent surface to stop being drawn and become invisible. There's no real work around for this, just try not to use masked walls or sprites with big transparent surfaces around TROR masked surfaces.		Masked floors and ceilings in polymer are always the last thing drawn on the screen. That means if you have a transparent surface such as a masked wall or sprite, it would cause everything all the TROR masked surfaces behind the transparent surface to stop being drawn and become invisible. There's no real work around for this, just try not to use masked walls or sprites with big transparent surfaces around TROR masked surfaces.

			Other than that, polymer is by far the most stable renderer for TROR, and apart from what's written above, is 100% glitch free, though it may be slow sometimes. It works by drawing the entire scene, TROR and all in a single rendering pass. This means that it doesn't require any additional computer power to draw TROR, hence TROR will not affect the framerate in polymer.
	Other than that, polymer is by far the most stable renderer for TROR, and apart from what's written above, is 100% glitch free~~. Despite being~~ slow sometimes~~, it is the renderer of choice for TROR~~. It works by drawing the entire scene, TROR and all in a single rendering pass. This means that it doesn't require any additional computer power to draw TROR, hence TROR will not affect the framerate in polymer.

	===Polymost renderer===		===Polymost renderer===

Micky C: /* Software renderer */

2014-07-08T23:52:37Z

Software renderer

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	Also note that currently the software renderer doesn't allow the player to see through more than 8 layers of TROR (it draws the texture on the surface instead). This normally isn't a problem in small sectors of TROR because the player typically won't be able to look up high enough to see the 8 layers due to vertical distortion. The limit could potentially be increased if someone desperately needed it (talk to the devs for that.)		Also note that currently the software renderer doesn't allow the player to see through more than 8 layers of TROR (it draws the texture on the surface instead). This normally isn't a problem in small sectors of TROR because the player typically won't be able to look up high enough to see the 8 layers due to vertical distortion. The limit could potentially be increased if someone desperately needed it (talk to the devs for that.)

			Having void sectors (white-walled sectors with null space inside them) inside a TROR sector, or inside a sector adjacent to/bounding a TROR sector, it will cause visual glitches when viewed from some angles. Consider turning potential void sectors into child sectors, and raise the floor to the ceiling to fix this, as the result would look identical to having a void sector, but without the glitching.

	===Polymer renderer===		===Polymer renderer===

Micky C: /* Software renderer */

2013-06-23T07:52:21Z

Software renderer

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	This HOM doesn't just occur due to islands, it can also happen when part of a normal sector is jutting out into a TROR sector, this can be thought of here as a mini-island even though it's connected to something. Don't call it a mini-island, I only called it that to explain why it would cause that glitching. This means that TROR extensions should be ''convex'', i.e if you draw a straight line through a TROR portal so that it leaves the sector, and then comes back, it is not convex (and is most likely due to something jutting out.) However if you draw a line through it and this does not happen, as is the case for a circle, square etc.. then it is convex, and should draw fine.		This HOM doesn't just occur due to islands, it can also happen when part of a normal sector is jutting out into a TROR sector, this can be thought of here as a mini-island even though it's connected to something. Don't call it a mini-island, I only called it that to explain why it would cause that glitching. This means that TROR extensions should be ''convex'', i.e if you draw a straight line through a TROR portal so that it leaves the sector, and then comes back, it is not convex (and is most likely due to something jutting out.) However if you draw a line through it and this does not happen, as is the case for a circle, square etc.. then it is convex, and should draw fine.

			Also note that currently the software renderer doesn't allow the player to see through more than 8 layers of TROR (it draws the texture on the surface instead). This normally isn't a problem in small sectors of TROR because the player typically won't be able to look up high enough to see the 8 layers due to vertical distortion. The limit could potentially be increased if someone desperately needed it (talk to the devs for that.)

	===Polymer renderer===		===Polymer renderer===

Micky C at 02:56, 16 March 2013

2013-03-16T02:56:27Z

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	5. This is the one that people normally forget. Set the TROR surface in both the top and bottom layer to BLOCKING otherwise it will not work as intended.		5. This is the one that people normally forget. Set the TROR surface in both the top and bottom layer to BLOCKING otherwise it will not work as intended.


	See, it's not too bad, just remember the lotags and the blocking. Note if you split up the water sector or add more sectors, make sure those sectors are in both the top and bottom layers, and have new SE 7s, just like normal water. In the future TROR water will be more automatic in that you won't need the SE 7, however this is incomplete as of this writing.		See, it's not too bad, just remember the lotags and the blocking. Note if you split up the water sector or add more sectors, make sure those sectors are in both the top and bottom layers, and have new SE 7s, just like normal water. In the future TROR water will be more automatic in that you won't need the SE 7, however this is incomplete as of this writing.


			Something that might make life a bit easier is that if you extend the floor of the below-water sector downwards, you can then edit the floor of the new bottom layer and make as complex as you want without having to worry about placing lots of SE 7s.

Micky C at 02:53, 16 March 2013

2013-03-16T02:53:55Z

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	This is how you create transparent water using TROR. It works just like regular water, but there are a few things you need to be aware of.		This is how you create transparent water using TROR. It works just like regular water, but there are a few things you need to be aware of.


	1. Create a main sector, then a child sector in that and extend it downwards.		1. Create a main sector, then a child sector in that and extend it downwards.

	2. Make both the top and bottom of the TROR surface masked or transparent, and give it the water texture.		2. Make both the top and bottom of the TROR surface masked or transparent, and give it the water texture.

	3. Give the floor of the top sector a lotag of 1 for water. Give the floor of the bottom sector a lotag of 2 for underwater.		3. Give the floor of the top sector a lotag of 1 for water. Give the floor of the bottom sector a lotag of 2 for underwater.

	4. Place an SE 7 with the same hitag in the same position in both the top and bottom sector.		4. Place an SE 7 with the same hitag in the same position in both the top and bottom sector.

	5. This is the one that people normally forget. Set the TROR surface in both the top and bottom layer to BLOCKING otherwise it will not work as intended.		5. This is the one that people normally forget. Set the TROR surface in both the top and bottom layer to BLOCKING otherwise it will not work as intended.

Micky C at 02:53, 16 March 2013

2013-03-16T02:53:25Z

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	There's nothing stopping you from going on to build a third.. forth.. fifth.. floor in the same manner either.		There's nothing stopping you from going on to build a third.. forth.. fifth.. floor in the same manner either.


			===TROR water example===

			This is how you create transparent water using TROR. It works just like regular water, but there are a few things you need to be aware of.

			1. Create a main sector, then a child sector in that and extend it downwards.
			2. Make both the top and bottom of the TROR surface masked or transparent, and give it the water texture.
			3. Give the floor of the top sector a lotag of 1 for water. Give the floor of the bottom sector a lotag of 2 for underwater.
			4. Place an SE 7 with the same hitag in the same position in both the top and bottom sector.
			5. This is the one that people normally forget. Set the TROR surface in both the top and bottom layer to BLOCKING otherwise it will not work as intended.

			See, it's not too bad, just remember the lotags and the blocking. Note if you split up the water sector or add more sectors, make sure those sectors are in both the top and bottom layers, and have new SE 7s, just like normal water. In the future TROR water will be more automatic in that you won't need the SE 7, however this is incomplete as of this writing.


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	4. Brooklyn Bridge is another city themed map which also makes extensive and interesting use of TROR, such as an alien ship that flies over water, shooting rockets, and in vents. [http://www.scent-88.com/reviews/B/brooklyn/brooklyn.php Download here]		4. Brooklyn Bridge is another city themed map which also makes extensive and interesting use of TROR, such as an alien ship that flies over water, shooting rockets, and in vents. [http://www.scent-88.com/reviews/B/brooklyn/brooklyn.php Download here]


	==Tricks and Effects with TROR==		==Tricks and Effects with TROR==


	===SE 13 destructible floor/ceiling===		===SE 13 destructible floor/ceiling===

Micky C at 02:44, 16 March 2013

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 . Brooklyn Bridge is another city themed map which also makes extensive and interesting use of TROR, such as an alien ship that flies over water, shooting rockets, and in vents. [http://www.scent-88.com/reviews/B/brooklyn/brooklyn.php Download here]
 ==Visual Glitches and Workarounds==
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 ===Polymost renderer===
-The polymost renderer is bad, M'kay? It's like a comic relief in bad Hollywood films who can't do anything right. Don't use it.
+The polymost renderer is bad, M'kay? It's like a comic relief in bad Hollywood films who can't do anything right. Don't use it. It has also been observed that some TROR constructions work perfectly on some computers, however are incredibly glitchy on others, so if you do decide to use this renderer, and TROR works for you, make sure you have two or three other people check it on their setups before you release your map. There are no plans to add complete polymost TROR compatibility as polymost will be obsolete once polymer is finished and optimised.

Micky C: /* List of TROR maps */

2013-03-16T02:22:25Z

List of TROR maps

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	===List of TROR maps===		===List of TROR maps===

	This (hopefully up to date) list contains maps which make heavy use of the TROR feature in order to make a huge variety of constructions. They each contain a wealth of examples for you to look at to see what's possible and how it works/how to make it.		This (hopefully up to date) list contains maps which make heavy use of the TROR feature in order to make a huge variety of constructions. They each contain a wealth of examples for you to look at to see what's possible and how it works/how to make it. This is not a complete list, as other maps make minor or simple use of the effect and hence are not listed here.

	1. The trueror.map in the Samples folder included with eduke32 contains a large amount of random examples of TROR.		1. The trueror.map in the Samples folder included with eduke32 contains a large amount of random examples of TROR.
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	3. Parkade is a large city themed map containing large multiple story buildings, along with a large amount of unique, pioneering uses of the feature, made by myself (Micky C) and Paul B. It is the largest, most extensive TROR map and perhaps the best example of what TROR is capable of so far, if I do say so myself. [http://www.scent-88.com/reviews/P/parkade/parkade.php Download here]		3. Parkade is a large city themed map containing large multiple story buildings, along with a large amount of unique, pioneering uses of the feature, made by myself (Micky C) and Paul B. It is the largest, most extensive TROR map and perhaps the best example of what TROR is capable of so far, if I do say so myself. [http://www.scent-88.com/reviews/P/parkade/parkade.php Download here]

			4. Brooklyn Bridge is another city themed map which also makes extensive and interesting use of TROR, such as an alien ship that flies over water, shooting rockets, and in vents. [http://www.scent-88.com/reviews/B/brooklyn/brooklyn.php Download here]

	==Visual Glitches and Workarounds==		==Visual Glitches and Workarounds==

Micky C: /* TROR Mapping Examples */

2012-04-20T06:15:03Z

TROR Mapping Examples

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	There's nothing stopping you from going on to build a third.. forth.. fifth.. floor in the same manner either.		There's nothing stopping you from going on to build a third.. forth.. fifth.. floor in the same manner either.



	===Retro-fitting via Joining Example===		===Retro-fitting via Joining Example===